Thanks

Also it doesn’t seem possible to remove the bar that holds the tabs…Or is there?

Everybody has got something with their browserwindow, of course also things not mentioned here, and it is impossible to keep everybody happy.

Some just will have to scroll…Others will just have to increase textsize to their likings…And some should just buy a monitor of this time.

…I will continue my exporations with 1024×768 in mind for the time being.

(thanks Mike!)

No standard way as such as everyone will have different browser set ups. I think the solution is to work well within 1024*768 e.g. pixels wide and if aiming to fit full height with no vertical scroll on a maximised 1024*768 window then say 570 pixels high.

As folk mention above it’s difficult to call exactly due to monitors, browser set ups. I simply aim to work well within 1024*768. It may mean some white space but I kind of like that…

Is there a standard way to keep this in mind?

Sure 1024*768 will be the next 800*600 but nothing ever stays still, colour was the new black and white, high defintion will be the next colour.

Everything changes ;-))

But when a website designed for a 1024×768 resolution is viewed on a monitor with 1280×1024 it looks like the website is very small…

And at the moment everybody I know has bought a new ‘flatscreen’ or is soon going to…And these all have bigger resolutions than 1024×768. So I think 1024×768 soon will be the next 800×600…And when we reach that point in time the discussion will continue with a whole range of new resolutions.

Ah well…It keeps me of the streets…

As mentioned max-width and height aren’t fully supported by browsers so as yet that is not a solution.

Personally I opt for a 1024*768 FIXED (with reductions for toolbars etc) display. Used to work in 800*600 but my site logs are showing under 1% of users still using 800*600.

As for mobile devices I’m in favour of feeding them a different stylesheet. It’s more work sure but I like to think it avoids everything being homogenous and allows some creativity.

What Nielson misses is the the aesthetic design principle – in short this means his “users” will form a relationship with designs that are aesthetically pleasing. Sure it may mean a little extra work i.e. one click to maximise or enlarge the browser but contrary to what ‘user testing’ may say (being flippant – ask people to whinge and they will) people really don’t mind this.

Horse for courses, there as yet is no perfect solution.

Certainly games designers/programmers don’t avoid High Definition for the 360 and PS360 just because the Wii and PSP etc aren’t in HD, nope they rewrite the code. Film makers make films in widescreen though some TV viewers still have 4*3.

And of course as mentioned there’s images in a liquid layout …these remain fixed width..so the user still has to scroll horizontally to view.

Still having said the notion of building liquid for 800*600 upto say 1280*1024 is reasonable. One could then assume most users will view in 1024*768 (say approx. 80%) and optimise for this. The problem arises if the aesthetic design is compromised at higher resolution, or even for the few still with 800*600.