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	<title>Comments on: Blog Usability: Too many RSS feeds</title>
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		<title>By: web writing trainer Ben</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-487839</link>
		<dc:creator>web writing trainer Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Thomas

On balance I think your approach is right. No one wants to do anything that might exclude or alienate users of less popular technologies or formats. But I am a great believer in keeping things simple.

Not sure how meaningful this is, but if you consider what people are using Google to search for and compare the phrase &#039;RSS feeds&#039; with &#039;Atom feeds&#039;, the latter is less than one per cent of the former. Last month 301,000 people around the world searched Google for &#039;RSS feeds&#039; as compared to just 2,900 people for &#039;Atom feeds&#039;.

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thomas</p>
<p>On balance I think your approach is right. No one wants to do anything that might exclude or alienate users of less popular technologies or formats. But I am a great believer in keeping things simple.</p>
<p>Not sure how meaningful this is, but if you consider what people are using Google to search for and compare the phrase &#8216;RSS feeds&#8217; with &#8216;Atom feeds&#8217;, the latter is less than one per cent of the former. Last month 301,000 people around the world searched Google for &#8216;RSS feeds&#8217; as compared to just 2,900 people for &#8216;Atom feeds&#8217;.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Webpage Design</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-419442</link>
		<dc:creator>Webpage Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re trying to decide which method to use here. This looks like a good approach...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re trying to decide which method to use here. This looks like a good approach&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jesper Rønn-Jensen</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-5982</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesper Rønn-Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just see that Jeremy Zawodny has done the same thing today: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006935.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just see that Jeremy Zawodny has done the same thing today: <a href="http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006935.html">http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006935.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Watson Steen</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-5130</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Watson Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Piotr

We havent done any thorough analysis of the clickrates, but currently about half of our hits comes from feed readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Piotr</p>
<p>We havent done any thorough analysis of the clickrates, but currently about half of our hits comes from feed readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Watson Steen</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-5025</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Watson Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jack

Yes we&#039;ve thought about it. As you say many feed readers will detect the change and update them self&#039;s accordingly, but I&#039;m not sure how many and which that don&#039;t. So before taking the drastic step and actually shutting down a feed, I prefer to first know a bid more about which (if any) readers that don’t support it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jack</p>
<p>Yes we&#8217;ve thought about it. As you say many feed readers will detect the change and update them self&#8217;s accordingly, but I&#8217;m not sure how many and which that don&#8217;t. So before taking the drastic step and actually shutting down a feed, I prefer to first know a bid more about which (if any) readers that don’t support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Narloch</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>Piotr Narloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of thoughts:

The world would be a better place if people could just agree to a format on everything....

It’s precisely the same as Betamax/Vhs or Pal/NTSC/SECAM... 

I think the reason for having the feed in multiple formats is originated in the idea, that if you only have one feed format, you will loose the users that don’t use that exact format. 
Personally - i don’t think that is a wrong thought. 
I think it’s maybe naive to think that the same feed from the same website, in a different format, will contain different information.  The information is generated in one source(the website editor), and therefore that source defines what information comes out. The format is just a media… it can not be expected to differentiate the content. 

I must agree thou, that it should be stated clearly that the different formatted feeds contain the same content. Just as its made clear to those of us, that when we download a dataset, its the same dataset we get in PDF, CSV and lets say Excel. 

Even other issue with RSS as a concept - i have found - is the fact that you really need to take the text &amp; content writing of the titles seriously. RSS titles are challenging, because you normally have extremely few words available on the readers page to present your topic. Often is something like 20-30 chars to present the news in an understandable, appetizing and factual form. 
Somewhat a challenge, when potentially having an extremely broad audience, requiring a general communication form.

Another whole different issue is all this &quot;Content feeds&quot;, and &quot;Content duplication&quot; idea that everybody is getting. How many times - not in rss only but in general - have you been looking for information on some specialized topic, and found the same info copied from page to page to page.. Makes the 2nd opinion kind of difficult..

Personally i have never been keen on RSS, as i simply have preferred to get my news when i wanted it, on a webpage like Jylandsposten og ComeOn, or in my mailbox as a newsletter...

With the new Google personalized Frontpage(not to advertise for Google), i have decided to give it a chance... 

By the way:
I wonder what the Click rates are on RSS feeds? Does anyone know any source of statistics on RSS feeds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of thoughts:</p>
<p>The world would be a better place if people could just agree to a format on everything&#8230;.</p>
<p>It’s precisely the same as Betamax/Vhs or Pal/NTSC/SECAM&#8230; </p>
<p>I think the reason for having the feed in multiple formats is originated in the idea, that if you only have one feed format, you will loose the users that don’t use that exact format.<br />
Personally &#8211; i don’t think that is a wrong thought.<br />
I think it’s maybe naive to think that the same feed from the same website, in a different format, will contain different information.  The information is generated in one source(the website editor), and therefore that source defines what information comes out. The format is just a media… it can not be expected to differentiate the content. </p>
<p>I must agree thou, that it should be stated clearly that the different formatted feeds contain the same content. Just as its made clear to those of us, that when we download a dataset, its the same dataset we get in PDF, CSV and lets say Excel. </p>
<p>Even other issue with RSS as a concept &#8211; i have found &#8211; is the fact that you really need to take the text &amp; content writing of the titles seriously. RSS titles are challenging, because you normally have extremely few words available on the readers page to present your topic. Often is something like 20-30 chars to present the news in an understandable, appetizing and factual form.<br />
Somewhat a challenge, when potentially having an extremely broad audience, requiring a general communication form.</p>
<p>Another whole different issue is all this &#8220;Content feeds&#8221;, and &#8220;Content duplication&#8221; idea that everybody is getting. How many times &#8211; not in rss only but in general &#8211; have you been looking for information on some specialized topic, and found the same info copied from page to page to page.. Makes the 2nd opinion kind of difficult..</p>
<p>Personally i have never been keen on RSS, as i simply have preferred to get my news when i wanted it, on a webpage like Jylandsposten og ComeOn, or in my mailbox as a newsletter&#8230;</p>
<p>With the new Google personalized Frontpage(not to advertise for Google), i have decided to give it a chance&#8230; </p>
<p>By the way:<br />
I wonder what the Click rates are on RSS feeds? Does anyone know any source of statistics on RSS feeds?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Brewster</title>
		<link>http://justaddwater.dk/2006/06/14/blog-usability-too-many-rss-feeds/comment-page-1/#comment-4973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Brewster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considered adding permanent redirects for the other feed URLs?  This is fairly common and most popular readers (including NewsGator&#039;s products) will update themselves when a redirect is detected.

Jack Brewster
Technical Support
NewsGator Technologies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considered adding permanent redirects for the other feed URLs?  This is fairly common and most popular readers (including NewsGator&#8217;s products) will update themselves when a redirect is detected.</p>
<p>Jack Brewster<br />
Technical Support<br />
NewsGator Technologies</p>
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